Awesome exchange between Dan Glickman and John Perry Barlow

Hollywood and the hackers.

Dan Glickman is the current head of the MPAA. John Perry Barlow is the head of the EFF, and a former lyricist for the Grateful dead. Here’s some highlights:

Dan Glickman: John Perry Barlow is the one who’s doing a disservice to the consumers, because you see if you don’t adequately compensate the artist, the director, the creator, the actor, they won’t do it in the first place so people won’t get movies.

DK: It is ridiculous to believe that you can give product away for free and be more successful. I mean it defies the laws of nature.

Would a clothing store give all their clothes for free? Would a car dealership give all its cars for free? Of course not. If they don’t make a profit in this world they’re out of business. That’s just the laws of human nature.

The fact of the matter is that people who create content for movies and television have to make a profit. If they don’t you won’t see all this wonderful stuff and listen to it.

Well, I gotta admit, he has a point. No one would create content unless they can be well compensated for it. Well, except that they do. Most artists I know are stoked just to have someone look at, read, or listen to whatever they create. People have always created content for the love of doing so; people will continue to create content for the love of doing so.

Oh yeah, and no one in this world makes money by giving stuff away for free, except for:

  • Google
  • Weekly newspapers
  • Popular bloggers
  • Radio
  • TV Networks
  • Heck, even some people in the open source community make big bucks through free software.

So this guy is either an idiot or a liar. Or maybe both.

JPB: I’ve got good news and bad news and good news. And the good news is that you guys have managed to buy every major legislative body on the planet, and the courts are even with you. So you’ve done a great job there and you should congratulate yourself.

But you know the problem is – the bad news is that you’re up against a dedicated foe that is younger and smarter that you are and will be alive when you’re dead. You’re 55 years old and these kids are 17 and they’re just smarter than you. So you’re gonna lose that one.

But the good news is that you guys are mean sons of bitches and you’ve been figuring out ways of ripping off audiences and artists for centuries…..

That about sums it up.

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